I'm a new guy here and have become attracted to Sako rifles from my interest in FN Brownings. In particular I admire the Mannlicher stocked Sakos and wonder what models came in that configuration, and specifically which ones are available in .308? Any suggestions on a good source of published information on Sako rifles? Finally, what sort of prices are Mannlicher .308 rifles fetching these days, in particular for a rifle in a condtion suitable for use in the field (i.e. not a beautiful collector gun)? Thanks for your help.
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Sako Mannlicher .308
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The full stock Sakos came in the early days (pre-60's) in full "rifle" length barrels of around 23 inches. Later models were "carbine" length barrels of around 20 inches.
The short and medium actions L46/461 and L57/579 (".222" and ".308", respectively) can be found in both barrel lengths. I've never seen an L61R (.30-06 length) action in anything other than the shorter barrel. Mannlichers were made as late as the A-series (A-I, A-II, A-III, and A-V), but I don't think any were made after the switch to the S-series or Model 75. That makes the youngest Mannlicher about two dozen years old.
.308 is probably the most sought-after caliber in Mannlicher, presumably because of the shorter action/lighter gun weight and cartridge being better adapted to a shorter barrel. I have a new, unfired .30-06 Mannlicher (A-III) and I know that I'd trade it in a heartbeat and give some boot for the same in a .308.
They were also produced in some of the long magnum calibers like .300 WM and .375 H&H.; I find such short barrels out of place on a magnum and wouldn't have much use for them.
Generally, I'd say that a Mannlicher (which was only made in "standard" grade) is worth about 10%-20% premium over a regular half-stock rifle, depending on caliber.
The short and medium actions L46/461 and L57/579 (".222" and ".308", respectively) can be found in both barrel lengths. I've never seen an L61R (.30-06 length) action in anything other than the shorter barrel. Mannlichers were made as late as the A-series (A-I, A-II, A-III, and A-V), but I don't think any were made after the switch to the S-series or Model 75. That makes the youngest Mannlicher about two dozen years old.
.308 is probably the most sought-after caliber in Mannlicher, presumably because of the shorter action/lighter gun weight and cartridge being better adapted to a shorter barrel. I have a new, unfired .30-06 Mannlicher (A-III) and I know that I'd trade it in a heartbeat and give some boot for the same in a .308.
They were also produced in some of the long magnum calibers like .300 WM and .375 H&H.; I find such short barrels out of place on a magnum and wouldn't have much use for them.
Generally, I'd say that a Mannlicher (which was only made in "standard" grade) is worth about 10%-20% premium over a regular half-stock rifle, depending on caliber.
I should add: The stock finish on the older L-series guns was usually glossy lacquer, while the stocks on the later A-series were all oil finished. Some of the older stocks were one piece, while later stocks used a barrel band about eight inches rearward of the muzzle where the two-piece stock joined. Mannlichers always (to my knowledge) had front sights. Earlier ones had no rear open sight on the barrel but typically came with the Sako dovetail rear aperture sight. Later models came with an open rear sight mounted on the barrel.
I've got one of the later model mannlichers in .308 with a left-handed action. Wonderful rifle!
I would value a full-stock Sako in .308 in "hunting condition" in the $900-$1100 range, depending on the accessories (box, manual, rings, etc) you have with the gun, and on what "hunting condition" actually translates to!
I would value a full-stock Sako in .308 in "hunting condition" in the $900-$1100 range, depending on the accessories (box, manual, rings, etc) you have with the gun, and on what "hunting condition" actually translates to!
Gents,
The .308 Carbines are getting more rare and prices are going up. I purchased this one a few months ago and have several photo's. Outside of a couple of minor handling marks in the wood the rifle could be unfired. That and the front sight hood is missing (not uncommon).
We really need a carbine category in the forum. Ahem!!!
Wes
The .308 Carbines are getting more rare and prices are going up. I purchased this one a few months ago and have several photo's. Outside of a couple of minor handling marks in the wood the rifle could be unfired. That and the front sight hood is missing (not uncommon).
We really need a carbine category in the forum. Ahem!!!
Wes
weshowe
I have the same rifle in the same caliber. I bought it while I was in Germany in 1986ish... The one bad thing that happen to mine is the screw that holds the rear site was broken flush with the barrel. Now I did add a scope and took the front hood off. Its a great hunter and it will never be a collectors item so if you feel you have a collectors item I still have the front hood to give away. drop a line here if you want it.
PS what is your serial number mine is 3501XX
I have the same rifle in the same caliber. I bought it while I was in Germany in 1986ish... The one bad thing that happen to mine is the screw that holds the rear site was broken flush with the barrel. Now I did add a scope and took the front hood off. Its a great hunter and it will never be a collectors item so if you feel you have a collectors item I still have the front hood to give away. drop a line here if you want it.
PS what is your serial number mine is 3501XX
Rookie,
I'll take that front sight hood! You need to get something for it...
One of the reasons I want a hood is to look into the posibbility of reproducing some for the guys that lost theirs...not sure how feasible that is, but would like to check into it.
Wes
I'll send my serial number in the morn. It's Oh, dark thirty right now...sleep apnea...it sucks.
I'll take that front sight hood! You need to get something for it...
One of the reasons I want a hood is to look into the posibbility of reproducing some for the guys that lost theirs...not sure how feasible that is, but would like to check into it.
Wes
I'll send my serial number in the morn. It's Oh, dark thirty right now...sleep apnea...it sucks.
Gents,
The serial number on my Sako Carbine is: 350128.
Wow, looks like they may have rolled off the line on the same day!
I'd love the front sight hood, but you need to get something for it...
Can't seem to find contact data for you...I'm here in Salem, OR
503-391-6847
[email protected]
All the best,
Wes
The serial number on my Sako Carbine is: 350128.
Wow, looks like they may have rolled off the line on the same day!
I'd love the front sight hood, but you need to get something for it...
Can't seem to find contact data for you...I'm here in Salem, OR
503-391-6847
[email protected]
All the best,
Wes
mcgrif2243
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Hey Wes,
Once your done getting specs off the sight hood I'd love give it a new home. Just let me know, I'm only an hour away up in Vancouver.
Regards, Will
Once your done getting specs off the sight hood I'd love give it a new home. Just let me know, I'm only an hour away up in Vancouver.
Regards, Will
Alton,
The front sight hood arrived yesterday afternoon. Wow, it's a beaut and will look great on my Carbine. These appear to be stamped. After I get out of the hospital I'm going to try and get some dimensions, etc., to see if these are reproduceable. If so, we may be able to get the folks without front sight hoods a replacement! Time will tell.
There is a little something headed your way in the mail along with my big THANKS!
Semper Fi,
Wes
The front sight hood arrived yesterday afternoon. Wow, it's a beaut and will look great on my Carbine. These appear to be stamped. After I get out of the hospital I'm going to try and get some dimensions, etc., to see if these are reproduceable. If so, we may be able to get the folks without front sight hoods a replacement! Time will tell.
There is a little something headed your way in the mail along with my big THANKS!
Semper Fi,
Wes
Alton,
Hope my letter reached you and your are pleased with the contents. Let me know.
I'm in the hospital now awaiting knee surgery #6. Surgery #5 was Friday to take tissue samples and test for infection from previous failed surgery and infection. They also removed and degenerated tissue and prep'd the site for Tuesday's repair surgery.
Let me know if you want to let go of the original Sako 1" rings. We can dicker on price, condition, etc. later.
More later.
Wes
Hope my letter reached you and your are pleased with the contents. Let me know.
I'm in the hospital now awaiting knee surgery #6. Surgery #5 was Friday to take tissue samples and test for infection from previous failed surgery and infection. They also removed and degenerated tissue and prep'd the site for Tuesday's repair surgery.
Let me know if you want to let go of the original Sako 1" rings. We can dicker on price, condition, etc. later.
More later.
Wes
Gents,
I posted a new thread on the full stock/mannlicher "short barreled" Sako category.
Upshot is that I'd like to find some more of these for our members or try producing them in my modest shop.
Take a look and let me know if you want to get on board with the project...
Wes
I posted a new thread on the full stock/mannlicher "short barreled" Sako category.
Upshot is that I'd like to find some more of these for our members or try producing them in my modest shop.
Take a look and let me know if you want to get on board with the project...
Wes
