Question on Parker-Hale Rifles

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  1. stonecreek

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    A little off of the subject of Sakos, but I know that we have some members here from the British Isles, as well as others who are familiar with British-made rifles.

    I recently won an auction with multiple guns in it, one of which is a Parker-Hale Rifle which I would guess is from the 1960's or 1970's. It appears to be made on a Mauser 98-style action with a fairly nice piece of walnut, roll-over cheekpiece, and skipline checkering.


    I'm curious as to whose action Parker-Hale used, or if it was an action that they themselves manufactured.

    Any comments on the quality or reputation of this rifle will be appreciated. If the comments are negative, go right ahead. It won't hurt my feelings since I succeeded in my goal to obtain another rifle in the auction lot and the Parker-Hale is, as Steinbeck's characters in Tortilla Flat would say, "pilon", or just something extra thrown in on the deal.
     

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    I seem to recall that the P-H rifles were built on the Spanish Santa Barbara Mauser action. The ones I've seen have had the modern version of the '98 action, with the side trigger-blocking safety--an action that looks like the FN Supreme action found on the Browning centerfire rifles of the 60s and 70s (but falls a little short of the FN's quality).

    I found the following thread from another forum on Santa Barbara actions:

    https://www.gunboards.com/threads/santa-barbara-98-mauser-actions.5964/
     
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    Thanks for that link, S.P. I suspect that you're correct that the action is the Spanish-made Santa Barbara. The patents having expired long ago on the Mauser 98 action, it was reproduced by numerous companies all over Europe, including France, Germany, Sweden, Belgium, Austria, and other countries. I'm not sure how many different "proprietary" or commercial 98's might have eventually been produced, but there was a slew of them from the 1950's onward.

    When I have the actual Parker-Hale rifle in hand I'll report if I find anything different from what we assume.

    Our Limey friends are tucked away snugly in their beds as I write this, but maybe when they wake up and have their second cup of tea some of them will see this thread and provide a little more enlightenment.
     
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    icebear Sako-addicted

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    The Parker-Hale was at one time imported by an outfit up in West Virginia that later became The Old Western Scrounger. I can't remember the name of the company back in the day. They used to hold an annual clearance sale for the dealers they did business with. I went to this sale once, back somewhere around 2000, and I remember seeing a lot of Parker-Hale rifles at attractive prices. It seems to me that Parker-Hale used the Santa Barbara actions, but also used others at various times, possibly including Yugoslav actions.
     
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    That's interesting, icebear. I made some purchases from The Old Western Scrounger when they were still in California (several locations in the state), in the early 2000s. (I think the business moved to WVa around 2004 or 2005.) The business was run by one "Dangerous Dave" Cumberland at that time. He was a character!
     
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    OK, that jogs my memory a bit. The guy who bought the Old Western Scrounger when Dangerous Dave died (not sure of that, maybe he retired but I think I heard he died) is the same guy who owned the importer of Parker Hale. I can't remember his name but he was a nice guy and well liked. I think he is still in business in WV, maybe as the Old Western Scrounger or maybe something else, I forget. I bought some parts from him a year or two ago.
     
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    G'day Stone.

    Apparently the early PH rifles used captured military actions. I had one at one stage in .243. It had the military style trigger, steel floorplate with no trigger bow button to release, low swing over safety on the bolt c0cking piece and a thumb cutout on the LHS of the action. Mine was very like this one:

    https://scgunshop.com.au/product/parker-hale-safari-deluxe-30-06/

    Later models 1100, 1200 etc used the Santa Barbara actions with no thumb cutout, trigger with side safety, allow floor plate.

    The key forum that holds a wealth on info on Parker Hale rifles is 'The Hunters Life'. There was a fella on there called Brithunter that wrote extensively about them. PH rifles can be dated by the crossed swords stamps on the underside of the barrel or action.

    http://www.thehunterslife.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48

    Edit: I went and had a closer look at the link about and it only gives about 5 pages of threads. If you go into the 'Firearms and optics' sub forum and perform a search on Parker Hale there are at least 15 pages of threads.

    Marcus
     
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    Just by coincidence, I saw a Parker-Hale .25-06 at a gun show yesterday. It was decked out just like an L-series Sako Deluxe - squared-off stock design, light colored wood, contrasting grip cap and forend tip, and skip-line checkering. I didn't pick it up to see what action it was built on. It was in good shape, some handling wear but nothing serious, and the asking price was $700.
     
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    Sounds like a 1200 Super, like this:

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    My current .243 was originally an 1100 which has a sporter beaver tail type forend like this:

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    A brochure that has some more details:

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    Marcus
     
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    Marcus, any idea where P-H got their barrels? Perhaps made their own?
     
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