Thanks gunner620. Hi iwanna, I agree, fine rifles. I've owned a couple over the years too and find them very comfortable to shoot as their fit, quality, weight and design all seem to work together to make for instinctive use. I love my Sako too for exactly the same reasons. Here, in Australia, the Sauers seem to be well respected but their initial cost is quite high for an everyday hunting weapon. Secondhand prices are also a little high. For example, a secondhand standard Sauer 202 would probably be advertised for a similar price as a new Sako 85. The proper secondhand Takedown Sauer 202 would be still twice the price of a new standard Sako 85. In my own estimation, that makes a new Sako 85 a real bargain here in Australia. After all, a new Sako 85 is a real quality package. Is it a similar situation in the USA? Perhaps a secondhand Sauer may be a better buy?